Italian channels issues and development

[Giuzio]

Ragazzacci ve lo dico in italiano, perchè è agli italiani che interessa la cosa.......

Salve a tutti, è la prima volta che scrivo in questo forum però vi seguo da parecchio tempo e prima di tutto vorrei farvi i complimenti per l'ottimo lavoro che fate. Scusate se vi faccio una domanda un po banale, ma perchè in questo trhead non si scrive in italiano visto che tratta un argomento prettamente italiano? E poi credo che tanti che seguono questo trhead sono italiani da quello che ho capito. Mi scuso se ho fatto una domanda "sciocca".

[zanzibar1982]

Ragazzacci ve lo dico in italiano, perchè è agli italiani che interessa la cosa.......

Salve a tutti, è la prima volta che scrivo in questo forum però vi seguo da parecchio tempo e prima di tutto vorrei farvi i complimenti per l'ottimo lavoro che fate. Scusate se vi faccio una domanda un po banale, ma perchè in questo trhead non si scrive in italiano visto che tratta un argomento prettamente italiano? E poi credo che tanti che seguono questo trhead sono italiani da quello che ho capito. Mi scuso se ho fatto una domanda "sciocca".

Se esistessero domande sciocche, per robalo io sarei il più deficiente della terra
Il motivo principale è perchè l'inglese è la lingua comune per capirsi tra persone
di nazionalità diversa, nonchè la lingua alla base dei linguaggi di programmazione
più diffusi; essendo il forum spagnolo come lo è il creatore di pelisalacarta (Jesus),
un programma in python, essendo spagnoli quindi molti utenti che qui si scambiano
informazioni su pelisalacarta ed il detto linguaggio, ed essendo l'inglese una lingua
masticata mandatoriamente da chi ha competenze di un (qualsiasi?) linguaggio
di programmazione, noi utenti italiani sia di pelisalacarta
che del forum dedicato per esporre problemi ed idee ed avere supporto da chi l'italiano
non lo conosce dobbiamo esprimerci in inglese (o spagnolo ovviamente).

Io, dentaku65 e DrZ3r0 ovviamente comunichiamo in italiano in PM.

Su github vale lo stesso discorso, anche se i contenuti sono per "italofoni" il target
a cui si riferiscono i lavori sarebbero i programmatori di python, più che gli utenti:
si cerca così di fare aderire persone competenti, più che solo persone italiane.

Jesus (l'autore del lavoro che noi allegramente modifichiamo e redistribuiamo)
ha scritto in questo thread qualche pagina fa che visto il grosso lavoro fatto finora
per i canali in italiano non esclude di creare una sezione del forum per noi utenti italiani,
per facilitarci il lavoro e perchè no, sviluppare una versione di pelisalacarta esclusivamente
con contenuti nella nostra lingua.

E poi... non siamo a casa nostra e ci dobbiamo adeguare

Le cose buone arrivano a chi sa aspettare.

>TRAD<

Si hubiera preguntas tontas, por robalo yo sería el más estúpido de la tierra: D
La razón principal es porque Inglés es el idioma común para entenderse entre las personas
de diferentes nacionalidades, así como el lenguaje subyacente de los lenguajes de programación
más popular; siendo el foro español, ya que es el creador de pelisalacarta (Jesús)
un programa en Python, siendo españoles tantos usuarios que intercambian aquí
información sobre pelisalacarta y dicho idioma, y ​​de ser el idioma Inglés
mandatoriamente masticado por aquellos con habilidades de un (cualquier?) Idioma
programación, nosotros, los miembros de ambas pelisalacarta italiana
ese foro dedicado a exponer los problemas y las ideas y el apoyo de aquellos que tienen el italiano
No sabemos que tenemos que expresarnos en Inglés (o español, por supuesto).

Yo, por supuesto DrZ3r0 dentaku65 y comunicarse en PM italiano.

En github lo mismo puede decirse, incluso si los contenidos son de objetivo "altavoces italianos"
se refieren a la obra sería programadores de python, la mayoría de los usuarios:
tratando de hacer la gente para unirse competentes, más gente que sólo italianos.

Jesús (el autor de la obra que estamos contentos de modificar y redistribuiamo)
Él ha escrito en este hilo hace unas páginas que vio la mayor parte del trabajo realizado hasta ahora
para los canales en italiano no excluye para crear una sección de los usuarios del foro para nosotros los italianos,
para facilitar nuestro trabajo y por qué no, desarrollar una versión de pelisalacarta única
con un contenido en nuestro idioma.

Y entonces ... no estamos en casa y debemos adaptarnos

Las cosas buenas vienen a aquellos que esperan.

[dentaku65]

ok... new version of Peliasalacarta has been released today 4.0.3
http://blog.tvalacarta.info/plugin-xbmc ... descargar/

I'll create a repo wit the italian repack

by

[fenice82]

Jesus wrote about the possibility to open an Italian section of the forum... Do you have any idea about how organize it?
I don't know a sub-section for developed and a second one for general discussion about pelisalacarta...
If I'm not wrog in the Italian section the users can speak Italian, so we need a moderator to report issue to Jesus.

[jesus]

You guys are amazingly active

After being published the new 4.0.3 release and avoding the few stupid bugs i introduced in 4.0.2, it's time to go and start improving the experience for italian users as much as possible.

1) Forum

I think best is to open a new forum inside "pelisalacarta", so you can organize your communications in separate threads and let users breath a bit. I'd suggest calling it "Italian users", translated to italian of course if you give me the correct spelling.

However if you think it is better to open it more visible, something like "pelisalacarta IT" at the same level as "pelisalacarta" forum, it seems ok for me too.

Ideas?

2) Language

I never have been against any language use here, if you feel better writing in italian it is ok for me.

Obviously i can't help you if you speak italian, but there are great people here to help.

3) Moderators

I have received offers for moderating the new forum from DrZ3r0, zanzibar1982 and dentaku65. If you are ok i will make you three as moderators then. You will get access to a private moderator forum, currently i am the only one

The only thing i ask you is to keep spam out (no mercy), and avoid people to insult others over certain limit. I hate to see when people lose good manners, they can always go to Facebook and say things how they want here.

4) Github

I have uploaded all the code of pelisalacarta 4.0.3 in Python to Github:

https://github.com/tvalacarta/pelisalacarta

It is the first time i manage a project using Github, so please have patience with me if i do something wrong or say things that sound silly. I promise to learn as quick as i can.

Feel free to collaborate, criticize or suggest what you want

5) Channels

You can see that some channels have an xml file with detailed properties:

https://github.com/tvalacarta/pelisalac ... imeflv.xml

Código: Seleccionar todo

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes"?>
<channel>
    <id>animeflv</id>
    <name>AnimeFLV</name>
    <language>es</language>
    <update_url></update_url>
    <active>true</active>
    <include_in_global_search>true</include_in_global_search>
    <version>1</version>
    <adult>false</version>
    <date>28/08/2015</date>
    <changes>First pelisalacarta 4 release</changes>
    <categories>
        <category>anime</category>
    </categories>
</channel>

It is still work in progress, but main idea is to pair each channel with an xml file like this to make it capable of describe where to search for updates, what categories can be classified, etc. This way when you drop the two files (animeflv.py and animeflv.xml in this case) the channel will appear on pelisalacarta without editing anything.

You can expect more advances on this in next versions.

[dentaku65]

Hi Jesus,

for github I suggest to create a specific repo based on the plugin name (in this case something like: plugin.video.pelisalacarta) and put in the root of the repo the content of https://github.com/tvalacarta/pelisalac ... in-classic in this way it is more easy to fork, pull and create plugin readi for Kodi.

see this as example: https://github.com/dentaku65/plugin.vid ... lacarta.it


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[jesus]

And how do you recommend me to manage the different platforms?

I still need to upload more folders, based on python (like mediaserver or enigma 2) and in other languages like Java for the Android version. I planned to make each plugin a unique repository, or i will have lots of repositories and it will be a nightmare.

What i do for work is to link with "ln -s" the "main-classic" folder in the "addons" folder of Kodi, that way it is easy to test and change.

And for distribution i use a build.xml file (ANT) for making the ZIP files, it is on github too.

Any ideas on this are welcome, i have been thinking a lot about best way to do it.

[dentaku65]

Jesus,

afaik I don't know a way to have the Kodi addon in a different fashion as described above; I really understood your problem, but, for what I can say, when you download the master.zip of an addon the addon should be ready for Kodi (via install from zip); if you put all the code this feature would not be available to the user for installation....

I'm afraid that you need to create a master repo as you created now, then a different repos for any project pulled from the master one... maybe some other folks here have more specific info on some "esoteric" feature of github that I don't know...

den

[zanzibar1982]

I gave tvalacarta, dentaku65 and DrZ3r0 push access
to the italian repository I manage on github;
Jesus, this repo contains only italian channels and a larger translation, the general search function
is the genuine one by Raùl for v3.9, servers are a merge between the ones in 4.0.2 and
the ones edited by robalo and DrZ3r0 through this thread (check first post)

https://github.com/Zanzibar82/pelisalac ... n-channels

the zip from here can be installerd directly on Kodi.

[jesus]

Jesus,

afaik I don't know a way to have the Kodi addon in a different fashion as described above; I really understood your problem, but, for what I can say, when you download the master.zip of an addon the addon should be ready for Kodi (via install from zip); if you put all the code this feature would not be available to the user for installation....

I'm afraid that you need to create a master repo as you created now, then a different repos for any project pulled from the master one... maybe some other folks here have more specific info on some "esoteric" feature of github that I don't know...

den

Wonderful, my first steps into Github and i have run into trouble

I have googled a bit and found that it is not possible to branch on a specific directory, you need to branch the whole project.

Problem is that html version, for example, shares the channels and servers with main. And differences for Plex version, as another example, are more in the structure and in a few files. It needs to be everything on the same repository, or for me will mean running into more problems when releasing new versions.

I understand this is not intented for users, who can take the regular ZIP file distribution. Or make it by themselves from the code.